The cost of a reward
In this day and age of agility most all training articles, seminars, workshops etc, talk about which reward to use, treats, toys, or tugging. Some trainers voice that you should only use treats, or you should only use toys; and some trainers advocate using both treats and toys depending on what exercise you are working on.
I personally use both treats and toys in my training. I change what i use depending on the dog, the exercise and what i am looking to get out of the exercise. The one thing i am seeing most every where in the country though is the dependency on some kind of reward, whether it is treats or toys. Most all trainers do not work without their various rewards, which is not a bad thing, dogs need to be rewarded during training. But what i am seeing now are dogs who work for the reward and not the handler. I do train with rewards, especially when first teaching an exercise. But i also know i can go work both of my dogs with no reward whatsoever and they will work just as hard and just as happy for me.
I work with my dogs right from the beginning that i am the reward, that getting a pet and a good girl from me is just as good or even better then playing with their toy or getting a treat. When i go out to train with my dogs i will take a few treats in my pocket and they get a treat when they do something really great, but for the rest of the session it is petting and "good girls". I want my dog's main priority first and foremost is that we play this game together as a team and not for a treat or a toy. I use a lot of my TEAM training and ground work exercise to build that teamwork mentality between myself and my dog, i will use a lot of treats or toys when we are first learning an exercise and then i will gradually start using less and less (giving treats when she does something awesome) and petting for everything else. I have found that not only does this increase the bond and teamwork between myself and my dog, but i also have greater freedom during my training sessions. I never worry about which toy i need to bring out or if i have a high enough value treat. Nor do i worry about having to bring higher value treats or different toys, because the dog has gotten bored of the current reward. Agility is a team sport, and the dogs have to want to do it because of you the handler, and not a toy or treat to make that team run smoothly. Just Do It!
About ten years ago or so I decided that I wanted to practice canine massage along with some natural health stuff like herbal therapy and nutrition stuff. For the next 5 years i studied extremely hard, enrolling in multiple classes, both online and on-site. At one point i was enrolled in a massage class, herbal therapy class, homeobotanical class and a nutrition class. And i LOVED it! I love to study and learn new things, i love trying to figure out what combo of herbs/supplements/bodywork would help a dog. In the past 5 years, I slowed down my studying, I finished up all my herbal studies and homeobotanical studies and finished my canine massage classes.
I will let you into a little secret about my personality, I am a bit of a perfectionist, I don't want to offer advice to anyone until i know everything there is to know about the subject. I always felt very comfortable with my bodywork studies, started offering massages after i finished my massage intro program, but even though I almost love my herbology/nutrition stuff more, I always kept pushing myself with it, never wanting to really offer it until i did this course, and then this one and then...... it was never ending, I wanted to be perfect at it before and know every little thing about it before i would start putting my name out there. Which in the world of herbs/supplements/nutrition that is pretty dang impossible! There is always something new to learn, a new way of applying something. I wouldn't feed my dogs homecooked meals because i wasn't 110% sure of every little thing i needed to do, I barely mixed my own herbal formulas or made my own tinctures because I needed to know everything about it before I took that step. Enough though i mixed countless tincture for my classes, made enough different formulas to make my head spin, wild crafted my own herbs and formulated various diets all for school, ( i graduated with honors from all my herbal courses; my teacher loved my formulas and praised me as natural) but before i took that step of offering it to the world i wanted to make sure i had every tiny little thing down. But with the help of some very good friends who have really boosted my confidence in myself and made me realize, "hey i do know this!" I have started offering my herbal formulas, I am making my own dog food and offering some advice to others about nutrition and finally getting my name out there for something that i truly love with all my soul doing. In order to learn everything, you have to do it. You can read and study till the cows come home, but putting it into practice is where the education happens. And..... Wait!
People who know me, also know that i LOVE moving waits! Both my dogs Nargles and Try are taught moving waits right at the beginning of their agility career. I use them almost all the time, training and trialing both.
A moving wait is great for building confidence in dogs as well as working on impulse control for dogs who need that as well. I play the wait game with both Nargles and Try all the time, when i first started it i train them alone first and then start working them together. Before i start playing this game with them i want to make sure they both fully understand what "wait" means. You will also see in the clip that i release both of the dogs with their names, i do this so that i don't end up with both the dogs releasing when i say "Okay". They know to go get the toy when they hear their name. I started teaching a moving wait to both Nargles and Try when they were puppies, along with the other TEAM training games, it started teaching them confidence skills as well as impulse control. Currently in the works at Fluid Motion Agility is a mini series covering how i teach the moving wait, the mini series will be available to everyone through the Fluid Motion Youtube channel. In the meantime i have uploaded a clip talking about a game that i use in my TEAM Training program and is also one of the ways i use my moving wait to teach impulse control. Train, Play, Repeat!Most of the time when i ask people "how long do you train for?" i get lots of different answers, some may have short training sessions that only last 5-10 mins once a day and others may have longer training sessions that last 30 minutes with short breaks during the session. The length of a training session depends greatly on the dog and the handler both. I have seen some dogs do better with longer sessions and i have also seen some people do better with short sessions, so the amount of time that you spend training each day depends on both handler and dog.
The one thing i have found that works well for most all dogs (and handlers) is short burst training sessions. A short burst training session is a certain amount of time spent training, followed by that same amount of time spent playing. In most cases i spend between 1-2 minutes training and then i spend 1-2 minutes playing with my dog. I do this for pretty much all of my training sessions, doesn't matter what i am working on. I will do about 3 reps of this; so 1-2 mins of work, 1-2 mins of play, and repeat that series twice. So the dog ends up doing a working session 3 times and a play session three times. For what i have seen with my dogs and students dogs is that it keeps the dog's (and the handler's for that matter) mind fresh, a lot of times during training the dog works really well in the beginning of the session but towards the end you sometimes either end up with a dog who seems to be going through the motions but not really engaged or a dog who starts to lose motivation and drive. This can happen even with a short 5 min session, but when breaking up you training session into 1-2 minute intervals with play in-between it gives your dog's brain a chance to reset and not start to shut down or go into auto pilot. The play time spent with your dog can be anything that your dog likes doing, but don't make it into another "fun" training session, like asking your dog to do tricks etc etc. It needs to be actual play, something that your dog can just have fun doing and not have to think about. I do all of my training this way and i have noticed a huge difference in not only my dogs attitude but also in how well they retain the exercise i am teaching. I have also noticed that i train much better with the shorter intervals as well. Amanda
The start of winter break
The NADAC Championships are over, I just finished my last seminar and judging assignment for the year, its official, Winter Break has started! :-D
Champs this year was amazing, Try was so awesome and blew me away with some of the things she did. One of them being she never missed one set of weave poles all week long. And that is something i have been struggling with her over, so that alone was so amazing i can't even put it into words. One of the runs (i can't remember what day, its all a blur lol) there were three sets of 6 poles and one set of 12, and the set of 12 had her weaving toward me which she truly hates doing. And she did all of them.... I was so happy my mind just went to mush for the rest of the run, i was ready to go home right then and there, that for us was awesome and i will never forget it. About a week before i left for champs i took Try and Nargles into the vet for a routine blood work and check up, during that my vet found a murmur, so we did some x-rays and her heart looks slightly enlarged and some fluid buildup. My vet thought it was mild and she would have no problem competing at champs, when i returned home i would need to take her in for an echo and various tests to really see everything that is going on. I pretty much lost it, i was freaked out the whole drive there wondering if she would really be okay, should i run, shouldn't I.... it was a long drive.... In the end after much thought and talking with my boyfriend we decided to watch her carefully and if she even so much as looked slightly funny i would pull her. The first run of the first day of champs was an absolute disaster, i spent much of the run staring at her to see if she was running or breathing funny, which in turn made her stare at me with this " what the hell are you doing look?", so we pretty much took a header that whole first run. After that, i swear she knew i wasn't "all there" and she covered for me, she truly became my rock, she was calm and just seemed to take charge with this look of "don't worry, i got this".
Nargles also got to play in champs, one of the teams needed a replacement dog, so she got to fill in. Needless to say Nargles had a great time! Nargles has a great time no matter what she is doing, she is the definition of happy. lol So begins my winter break, and like i said; i love it. I get a chance to just relax, play World of Warcraft and hang out. My dogs also get time to just be dogs, they get to be lazy and hang out. We still go out for walks and throw toys but training wise they are off until at least mid January Does it set me back a bit and i will have to "tune them up" before trial season? Yep, it does, but i think they need the break, not only physically but mentally as well. Physically, they need to let their muscles, tendons and ligaments rest. Mentally they need to just be dogs, to just get treats without having to work for them and let their little brains get a break. Honestly i do the same thing before champs as well, generally the champs are held mid to late September and the last trial i do is Labor Day at the first of September. Then i just let them sit for those 1-2 weeks, it lets their brains re-group, lets their bodies have a rest and honestly my dogs fire so much harder and they are so much more "on" when i let them have a break before a big competition. And in all honestly if there is some bug or something that i haven't fixed 1-2 weeks before champs, it isn't going to get fixed last minute, so i let them have a break. Try ran so hard and so on this year at champs and because the champs were in Oct she had a solid 3 weeks off before she went to champs. And she fired and ran better this year then she ever has and i really give credit to that time off. So from now until around the end of January when i start doing a little training, they get to just hang out, eat treats, get a little soft around the middle and be dogs.
First day of the Pre-trialToday was the first day of the pre-trial for the NADAC Champs, everything went great, the site is huge and it is so awesome seeing everyone again! We had two runs of Weavers today and didn't start till 1 which is always a good thing as mornings are not my thing. lol I really liked the first course and where the bonus line was for it so decided to give it a shot. Try ran so great, I couldn't have asked for anything better, we ran clean and got the 20 point bonus and I couldn't be happier. Weavers isn't her most favorite class in the whole world so that run really meant a lot to me. I decided after that run she can have the day off and skip round two! Tomorrow is Touch N' Go and Nargles gets to run so its gonna be a fun day! :-) The Secret to my SuccessFirst lets define "success", everyone has a different idea of what success means to them. For some it may be earning a title, winning a championship, running a course clean or just getting past obstacle two. Just because one's person's idea of success may be to win the championships doesn't mean that the other person's "successful" run of getting past obstacle four is any less of an achievement. Sometimes in agility we lost sight of what this sport is, having fun with our dogs. But lets get real, its nice to win, its fun to Q. That doesn't mean that we should all go hardcore and push our dog past their limits for the sake of a qualifying run. In my perfect world people would have fun with their dogs in every run and Q every now and then too. Sometimes it seems in the agility world there are two groups of people those who "just want to have fun with their dogs" and "those who what X, Y or Z title" The "i just wanna have fun group" will at times attack the "title group", and then the "title group" will come back at the "fun" group. Why can't we all just get along?! I just wanna have fun, and I would like to Q every now and then as well. I think we should combine the groups, I don't think there is anything wrong with someone wanting to Q, and i think the whole point of this sport is to have fun. So i say, let get together people! So then the other side of this is if we wanna have fun with each run then we need to Q with each run. As awesome as this sounds, i honestly think it would get pretty boring, for me part of the fun of training dogs for agility is fine tuning our skills. If i got a Q every time i ran then i would have nothing to work on at home, i like going to a trial and seeing a couple things that i need to work on either for myself or with my dog, then testing out that skill in the next trial. A criteria has to be in place in order to set goals for yourself, and yes sometimes that criteria can be difficult and some handlers and dogs may have a harder time then others reaching it. My dog Mardi was a fun dog to run and to train, she was born with one eye so there were things i did differently with her then what i did with my other dogs. Mardi had a terrible time with weave poles, she wasn't to bad as long as she could see me, but if i was on her blind side more then likely she would pop out and then go really slow the second time through. So some courses were very hard for us if there wasn't a nice way for me to switch sides for her in the weave poles. My goal with Mardi was to earn her NATCH, we earned that and i set my next goal of a Versatility NATCH. That meant having to do Weavers, lots of Weavers..... And it was a long road and a hard one, but i didn't want the criteria for Weavers to change, Was it difficult? Yes. Was it an amazing accomplishment when she finally earned it? Oh heck yes. During my time trying to earn Mardi's Versatility NATCH, i did realize that we may not get it. Did it make my runs with Mardi any less special or fun? Nope. I would keep plugging away at it and maybe modify my goals to earning 50 points in Weavers instead of the Versatility NATCH and when she got that; then adjust my goals again. So i didn't set goals for Mardi i knew she had no hope of meeting, I didn't set out to earn Top Weavers Dog of the Year, could i set my goal for Top Tunnelers Dog or maybe Jumpers? Sure! We were pretty good at those two classes!
To me it is no different then the high school track star, just because they are awesome in high school doesn't mean they will be able to win the Olympics. So my idea of success is different for each dog i run. Some may not have the same "success" as other dogs, some may never earn the titles that other dogs of mine have earned. That doesn't change my view of what the criteria should be and it doesn't change how much i love running with my dogs and how special each and every Q i get is. Mardi would never have been able to do the bonus line stuff that Try is doing. That doesn't make Try a "better" dog, it doesn't make the titles that Try earns any bigger or better then what Mardi earned. Try just has a different set of goals and different successes then what Mardi had. My overall goal for all of my dogs each and every run is to walk in the ring and handle the best i can and go out there and defeat that course. Oh, and to not tip and fall....... that would be my other goal.........
Walk away man..... just walk away....Frustration. Its that dirty word in agility that no one wants to talk about. Trainers don't get frustrated with dogs while training, if a dog isn't learning something; then us as the patient beings that we are should help our dogs through their issues with a smile on our face. Well, that doesn't happen for everyone. We are human! We get frustrated! The key to training a dog is knowing when to walk away. Nargles is teaching me all kinds of new things about frustration. :-D She is much different to train then Try and i am working through things that i never had to deal with when training Try. For example, my 17" Border Collie takes a country mile to make a turn, this is something that i am currently training with her. And not only does she not want to turn but she likes to scream when i do make her turn, which i am not real fond of the ear piercing noise when trying to work her. So do i get frustrated? yes..... oh yes....... So what do you do? Simple answer, walk away. Most people have a hard time keeping a calm look on their face and in their body language when they are frustrated, your mind may be telling you to be calm but your body will be doing otherwise. So for example i was doing some pinwheel work with Nargles, and she was just not getting it, i know i need to walk away but she hasn't ended on a good note, which is how i end every training session. So instead of trying to do the pinwheel again and hoping we can get it right, i took her over to a set of three hoops that i was working Try's "Go" exercise on, i let her do three nice and easy hoops; told her how awesome she was and went in the house. I gave her and myself some time to cool off, and we went back out to the pinwheel of doom later that evening, and what do ya know! She hammered it! Sometimes dogs (just like people) will learn things faster if you just let them walk away and process it. I never let them end on a bad note, i always let them do something else and be successful and then i will let them stop. Being frustrated isn't bad, but sometimes it comes across in the agility world that if you are a "good" trainer you are never frustrated and you have the patience of a saint. Frustration becomes bad when trainers don't know what is happening and continue to drill the dogs, my golden rule is if they get is wrong 3 times in a row, step away and took a look at yourself, your dog and the exercise, end on a good note and let everything cool off. Then when you come back that evening or the next day you and your dog both are coming at it with a fresh mind. Just always remember when to walk away. Back when i was fun.....
Over this past weekend i had a bit of an realization, somewhere along the line during this past year i stopped being fun.
For most all of my agility career i always had fun at trials, i joked, laughed (always quite loudly) an agility trial was my weekend of BS'ing with all my friends and hanging out. But i realized over the weekend (more like it hit me like a brick) that i have become so focused on each and every run, each and every Q, that i stopped being fun. I walk every course trying to pick out every tiny little thing that could go wrong and how will i handle each little sequence. I have always just walked courses and let my gut tell me where i should be and how i should handle it. But now i seem to analyze everything and break it down into tiny parts. Its not me, just so not me. Alot of things happened over this past year and i think i got so caught up in all my goals that i lost sight of what really matters, my dogs. My Dad told me once about Chance "She runs her heart out for you and thats all that matters" and i know he would say the same about Try and now Nargles..... So my goal for the remainder of this year is to not give a S*** . (i should make that into a shirt....lol) My goal is to run my dog, and what happens, happens. Nothing more, nothing less. And i know that Try and Nargles will thank me for it. So get out your earplugs world, me and my loud laugh are making a comeback!!!! Is it okay to change your mind?
For the past few days I have been starting Nargles on her weave poles, i had trained Try using sets of four poles with wires on them, so that is how i started with Nargles. As i was watching my video clips of her weaving i wasn't liking the way she kept following the panels instead of focusing on the poles, as i started to move the wires away i found she was getting frustrated and confused because she was more focused on the wires then the poles themselves.
So i spent the day staring at my set of weave poles, willing them to tell me what i should be doing with them. I love clicker work and love watching the dogs learn so i decided i want to free shape Nargles through the poles. I started her with just two poles and at this stage she is just running through two poles. As i progress i will bring in another two poles, what i am planning on doing will be a variation of Susan Garrett's 2x2 method with my own spin that will work for my dogs. I think i will also run Try through the steps with Nargles as well, she already has pretty decent poles but it never hurts for an older dog to run through the basics and have some fun. (and lots of treats!) So after i finally made up my mind (which can be quite an event...) i thought to myself "is it okay to change your mind?" It seemed really hard for me to change mid stream so to speak, like it was against some unspoken rule. But i knew deep down that using the wires with Nargles was not going to work like i wanted it to, that doesn't make the wires a bad training tool, just not the right one for her. So even though i changed pretty early for her, she had only done the weave poles with the wires perhaps 3 times, what if it had been more? What if i had done it for months? Would it still be okay to change? Yes. absolutely, whole heartedly, beyond a shadow of a doubt. YES. I see many dogs who struggle with a training method or a certain performance on equipment (like contacts) that would love to have their owners change mid stream. Not all training methods work for all dogs, and not the exact steps to a training method works for every dog. modify it, change it and make it yours, make it work for you and your dog as a team. So i am off to do some more free shaping with Nargles and my mind now knows after many hours of talking to itself, it really is okay to change. Amanda |
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